Chris
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Leader Of DFA
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Jul 12, 2004 5:31:16 GMT -5
Post by Chris on Jul 12, 2004 5:31:16 GMT -5
1. Yes it is a game for whoever to percieve and take whatever they want out of it. I have the right to scruitinize whatever i please. As for wherever i please i was CLEARLY informed this is not the place therefore HERE i will not.
2. As for the "need" no but there isn't a "need" to do most enjoyable things in life but the point of this GAME (as you so clearly pointed out) is to enjoy myself. If a particular member does not enjoy being part of an argument or does not want to be "picked" on they hold EVERY right to private message me and tell me and i will completely respect that right of theres so they can enjoy the game how they would like to.(Insult Removed) I show respect to those who deserve my respect and show me equal respect and will not bend on this unless PM is becoming some sort of institution with rules and guidlines on how to interact with others (which in my opinion would be ridiculous and opressive). As for the ref's, I apreciate and show/tell that opreciation daily and (Insult Removed) passive-agressive threats.
3. Now I still thought we were talking about a game not fucking Germany under Hitler's rule. PUNISHMENT's for INSULTS? I don't know what PM you have been fucking playing but take a look at the history. All history aside PM is all about threats, Insults, mind games, and battling in every sence of the word. Is it not a strategy to scare an oponnent? to make them doubt themselves? to make yourself disliked? I mean maybe you dont understand the point of a "role playing" game and to initiate "PUNISHMENTS" for these things is almost moronic.
I guess in PM you can't play a "heel" or "evil" character? Cause that wouldn't be to friendly ya know. kind of takes a large chunk out of PM dont ya think? Should we not kill a PC if they ask nicely? Should i not tell my in game rival on the msg board im gonna kill him and he cant do anything about it cause he is a weak player using a stupid race and he has no brain enough to survive? I mean i really wanna know exactly how im allowed to play a role in this game can you explain to me what my character is allowed to think and say to others or what im allowed to think and say to members for that matter.
oh look its another fucking threat...your right you can delete my page and ban me off the message board and never let me play the game but the day a game is worth bowing down (Insult Removed) i will never see. SO shifty in all i say (Insult Removed) , i was told members are not to insult or even reply to others join posts therefore i wont.
As for insulting people, i dont usually but if i want to i certainly will cause thats what this game is about past to present of course it is only one aspect but one we have all delt with and like i said above you dont want to partake you have every right to tell em to back off in private message or right on the post. And for REAL refs i show respect but if im not shown respect i will not show it back and when im in an argument with a ref i will not just shut up and obey commands because they have the ability to delete me....if i worried that everytime i spoke my god damn opinion sum1 was going to delete or "punish" me i wouldnt waste my time here, (Big Insult Removed).
All in all. I wont Insult/"harass" members on the join forum like I was informed. I will not reply to joining member's posts like i was informed. And my situation with Chris has been worked out as far as im informed. I was not informed about any other "official" regulations (that would be new to me) by a "ref" so whatever i say here is under that knowledge (i would just like to point out). Also i would assume all the ref's would need to agree on these "guidlines" and announce them as a defined clear rule before sum1 would be punished for something. Oh and just incase your wondering...(Insult Removed)
Edit: I have decided Shift inulting you is not worth ending my time in this game which i do take seriously and enjoy alot, aswell as the people in it member's and ref's alike. i wouldnt give up my PM exp's for anything and hope to continue to have them especially with Chris and Cloud 2 very good ref's. So i have personally removed all Insults which reduces my chances of getting banned or at all "punished" because of this post reduced to nothing being all i did was post an argument and my opinion and unless that was decided Illegal in PM recently too than i have no worries.
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Brolli
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You wouldn't listen, look at you now, you stupid FUCK!
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Inferno
Jul 12, 2004 5:50:17 GMT -5
Post by Brolli on Jul 12, 2004 5:50:17 GMT -5
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Inferno
Jul 12, 2004 6:53:09 GMT -5
Post by sHiFtY on Jul 12, 2004 6:53:09 GMT -5
ok, *rubs eyes*...
after reading that...
1. incase you have not noticed, the forums such as.. General Discussion and Joining and others and not in ROLEPLAY. therefor one should not "HAVE TO" play an evil character.
2. no one should be subject to abuse no matter what the curcumstances,
3. your use of the word "Ref" as if i am not one, maybe so not a Game ref, but i am a ref all the same. and i have been a game ref before, and before any of the current refs player were. apart from mado ( who i believe is not a ref ) i am the most senior ref here. so please do not Patrionise me on the "REF" factor.
4. i think you need to understand, this is a gaming community, and a fun gaming community encourages others to play, and for them to tell their friends thus helping PM Grow. if people are hounded and harrased they stop playing and do not reffer planet mado to their friends.. thus less members means less interaction... and im sure you dont want to play a game with 1 person per planet.. and im sure the refs wouldnt bother reffing either
5. just remember npot everyone here is of your "mighty intelect" and many are not that old. so insulting them and such hurts their feelings lowers their self esteem and such.. and i do not want that happening.. the friendlier PMAF is... the better for all.
6. No this game isnt like germenay under hitlers rule, but some people really dont listen, sometimes enoughs enough.. sure pm is about "mind games" and battling other members, but keep that in a planet chat, or emails or private convosation..
look, all in all i dont mind the small threats and harmless insults and such.. but keep it in the game and outside of the game...
as for you... "insults removed" oh very comical, one can only begin to imagine what big braves words you threw at me.. im sure your all mighty vocabulary has reached into the very words of fear, hatred and such and thrown them at me.. pfft.
i couldnt care less what you think of me or the ideas.. i work for the good of everyone here.
im not as strict as you may think, your isults would not have ended your time in the game..
i couldnt careless.. yet i am glad you have sorted out your dispute with chris and such..
keep it real, its just a game, and have some bloody fun. (with out the expense of hurting others TO-MUCH)
(and brolli just for you)
Peace, Your Friendly neighbourhood Yobbo.
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Inferno
Jul 12, 2004 8:44:57 GMT -5
Post by comanozh on Jul 12, 2004 8:44:57 GMT -5
Just for reference i could care less what chris said and none of this bothers me in any way. so yeah this didnt bother me. I didnt let his comments get to me. lol but me joining has already caused controversy.
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Fou Lu
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Raging Dragons
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Inferno
Jul 12, 2004 9:07:28 GMT -5
Post by Fou Lu on Jul 12, 2004 9:07:28 GMT -5
this may just be my opinun but shift i think you need to just lay off like you said "its a game" you shouldnt punish people for insulting others as long as it doesnt go too far i mean hell if the refs did in the past then we all know Saint wouldnt be here Most people dont take w/e said on the board personally, its only when people like saint who know who to insult decently that people get hurt from it Aslo yes we dont have to play an evil charater but so what we also dont have to play a good character
owell just my 3 cents i wanted to toss in
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Inferno
Jul 12, 2004 9:47:51 GMT -5
Post by Saint on Jul 12, 2004 9:47:51 GMT -5
Shift, I handled this with Chris already. You can drop it. Chris, thank you for doing what you did. Fou Lu, shut up. You're fined all your pl.
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Chris
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Leader Of DFA
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Inferno
Jul 12, 2004 13:18:44 GMT -5
Post by Chris on Jul 12, 2004 13:18:44 GMT -5
1. no does not have to, but dont i have the option? to make people to hate m,e as a member all together? its a strat definatly. I never knew we werent allowed to roleplay in general discussion...is this another new rule? and the way you talk as a member reflects on what people think of you as a player.
2. you are correct and that is why they have every ability to let people know they dont want to be "abused". Some people enjoy "zinging" each other or "ranking" each other out. im sure if this went on when they were asked to stop there should be circumstances yes.
3. Im sorry if you interperted something from my post that was not there, i suppose these are your own insecurities.
4. I agree completely. like i have said i do not belive in "hounding" or "harassing" anyone, and would never do it if i knew better.
5. very true, but as i have responded to this point countless times i would not if sum1 did not enjoy the "game" of it. also i am not thje kind of person who does but i think those who want to should be able to through around sum insults. as for newbs no, i dont think they should be attacked at all you are right there and i have not ever insulted a newb.
6. well when you and the other ref's come up with what exactly the members of PM are allowed to post in specific boards please let me know.
As for my insults removed, i was avised to not do anything that would get me deleted from this game by a fellow player who also enjoys my time here. and he was right....but i thought to be made to completely modify my post would be giving in unjustly so i just somewhat cesnored myself, which i also strictly do not belive in but i do love this game and do take it seriously and plan on playing as long as possible.
As for hurting members, i never plan to...its a game...so are the insults...as im sure any of you can see they never ever cut that deep...if anything the posters on the Idea's board are harsher.
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Inferno
Jul 12, 2004 18:46:37 GMT -5
Post by Saint on Jul 12, 2004 18:46:37 GMT -5
This should have been dropped a LONG time ago, so I'm locking it, Shift- Do not unlock to reply, take it to MSN or something.
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