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Post by Epyon346 on Aug 9, 2004 15:37:40 GMT -5
I believe that every god that has ever existed, does exist and that the Christian god simply won some competition way before creation started, so that he gets a monopoly. Not a joke, totally serious. I've never heard that before...
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Post by Chris on Aug 9, 2004 15:54:13 GMT -5
Agnostic
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Post by Epyon346 on Aug 9, 2004 22:26:07 GMT -5
Do you mean you are? Because believing that all gods exist but God/Jesus won a contest would be kinda close to being a total opposite...
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Post by Oriphim on Aug 9, 2004 22:41:47 GMT -5
I'm not agnostic. Agnostic means I am not convinced as to whether religion is real or not. I believe they all exist.
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Post by Saint on Aug 9, 2004 23:07:50 GMT -5
Well, christians didn't really win anything. Only in USA is christianity the "big" religion, every where else it's like... Well, in nice terms "The dumbass" religion. Other places you're buddhist, hindu, muslism(Sorry the wrong spelling), jewish, athiest, or one of the many other thousand religions. Besides Europe, christianity is openly rejected in most places.
Agnostic = chicken shit.
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Post by Saint on Aug 10, 2004 7:11:26 GMT -5
Agnostic = "I don't know what I believe and I don't really have any input! There may be a god! There may not! I just can't form a true opinion! So I am 'undecided'!"
Agnostic = chicken shit
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Post by sHiFtY on Aug 10, 2004 8:32:58 GMT -5
first of all.. im sorta christian.. but not a (get in there.. full on guy) when it comes to it.. i attend church.. only with my g/f.. because her family is majorly religious.. but yeah.. look. everyone is entitled to their view and belieifs.. no religion is better than the next.. and i know for sure.. that in the australian constitution.. that it states that no one person's or relegion can be held higher than the next.. somthing along those lines.. (should pay more attention in legal studies).. anyway.. this is planet mado.. not the world forum.... a game, not a place to debate your religious beleifs or knock someone elses religion.. shit if someone wants to make up their own relegion thats fine by me.. im not out there to convert someone.. especialy on the net.. and neither should anyone else on the next or especialy in this game.. religion is a controversial and sensitive subject world wide.. so all i ask is.. that we keep each of our religious beliefs to our selves and not presure, bag, knock, shit on.. ect.. other peoples beleifs.. dude, knocking saints religion is not cool.. and i hope we dont have 2 see anymore of that thoughout the rest of your time here at pm.. and i can fully see where saint is comming from with trying to trade you off.. nowing the type of person saint is play fair boys and girls.. Peace... Shift.
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Post by Oriphim on Aug 10, 2004 14:30:19 GMT -5
I didn't say the Christians won anything. I said the god himself won some kind of contest up in the godly realms.
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Post by Chris on Aug 10, 2004 15:28:38 GMT -5
Well your certainly sounding ignorant. Actually Agnostic's do have an opinion and i dont see how you could think otherwise...do you not know the definition of the word opinion?
The point of being Agnostic is being open to others beliefs and idea's so their opinion can possibly grow and change. Also i do not see what is so wrong with being undecided? Would it be better that everyone have a steadfast opinion not open to change?
Like i said in my earlier post what Agnostic's lack is 'Faith' (firm belief in something for which there is no proof ). Which i can clearly see negative and positive aspects to, but certainly doesn't make us 'Chicken Shits'. I really dont apreciate being called one and their is no reason to in a discussion, we dont need insults to prove a point.
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Post by Saint on Aug 10, 2004 16:53:59 GMT -5
Kiddo, that is what I call 'em. Had you asked me before this chat, I would have said the same.
You can have a belief and still be open to other religions, because if a religion defines you or your life, you have some issues.
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Post by Chris on Aug 10, 2004 17:59:47 GMT -5
You make it sound like that makes it right...so if i was to call black people nigger's (which i do not) and defended my actions with saying "that is what I call 'em" than it would be ok? I dont think so personally. I take offense to what you "call 'em" and would rather you please did not refer to them as "chicken shits" it is derogatory and is disrespectful to me and my beliefs. I would never refer to your beliefs in such a manner and i dont think me or anyone who follows the concept of Agnosticism deserves your disrespect.
Very true and i wish all could be open and not close minded to others and their concept of beliefs or religion. Unfortunatly we live in a society in which people choose to disrespect one another and the things they value. i choose to remain open and ever growing and i hope that is the least we all can do.
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Post by Snakes on Aug 10, 2004 18:08:29 GMT -5
i beseech any ref to please delete this thread. Blocking this thread will not help, because seph can just unblock comment on it, then reblock it.
{modified for grammer}
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Post by Saint on Aug 10, 2004 19:13:48 GMT -5
i beseech any ref to please delete this thread. Blocking this thread will not help, because sephcan just unblock comment on it, then reblock it. You really think I'd go that low? Kiddo, if Chris and me really need to talk, I'll just IM him on AIM. And the thread stays open. Chris, I understand you don't wanna be called that, I really do, and I see your points, but I am close minded on some things. One of those things is people should have beliefs. You should know if you believe or don't in a god. I don't. If there happens to be one when I die, too bad for me. I will stand for what I believe and not stand in the middle.
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Post by Snakes on Aug 10, 2004 19:51:27 GMT -5
kiddo? chris i am older then you.
but i also never said that you would i said that you COULD. what i am saying is that this post has gotten so far off topic that it has no hope of getting back on topic and has no real reason. Also considering you and chris are pretty much the only ones still arguing about it, maybe it IS something that would be better off discussed via AIM.
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